They're the ones who expect 110% out of everyone and don't suffer fools, mistakes, or incompetence. This would have made the explosion occur 36 seconds earlier, that's all. I agree with ppitm, the Dyatlov you see in the miniseries is a composite caricature of stereotypical "bad bosses". REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 1398 on r2-app-04687c972eecb1d65 at 2021-01-01 01:09:03.434719+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: US. Which, in my opinion, were from the ranks of the KGB, then the Gosplan, and therefore ultimately the Politburo. The show was altered to show him to be cruel, demanding and unkind. [–]nynikai 28 points29 points30 points 4 months ago (5 children). Like Nikolai Karpan or one of the people who interviewed people in the hospital. Lyudmilla was shown very positively wasn’t she? Dyatlov wrote to Leonid’s parents and assured them their son had done his job well and sympathized with them about losing a child. I don't think that the way he was portrayed can be interpreted as cowardly in any way. I heard their reaction was not great, but not terrible. Then, in March, HBO premiered the miniseries Chernobyl, which chronicled the aftermath of the disaster, and the subreddit changed drastically. Kinda makes you wonder. Was there any safety regulation that ordered to shut down a reactor until the xenon dissipates? I mean, if you make a territory where you are the big boss and everyone have to be afraid or they're fired, maybe you wouldn't hear a second opinion of something. But to be fair, i don't think the guy was so bastard as the HBO series represents him, and judge him by the character some people made on a TV show would be unfair. During such work, various experiments on equipment are usually carried out. After three years working in Norilsk, he was admitted in Moscow Engineering Physics Institute where he received an engineer-physicist degree with a sp… I wonder if any of his family have seen the show and taken offense to his villainization for the story, since in reality he was apparently much more reasonable. From there, the accounts vary. [–]UtterEast 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children). So basically there is very compelling evidence. Ultimately, how you source media is your business. Chernobyl, HBO’s gutting five-part miniseries about the 1986 nuclear disaster, has quietly grown in popularity in the aftermath of Game Of Thrones ’ divisive final episode. [–]Kashmir33 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (2 children). I Actually went and did a tour back in feburary. All view-points and opinions are permitted here, within reason. I can still remember the first time I was complimented by an instructor who had this reputation. No reposting of news, or superfluous discussion threads. he did everything by the book, with the information he had and within the guidelines presented by the government, I mean, he was guilty of gross violation to the safety rules. Only posts pertaining to HBO's Chernobyl will be allowed here. Decorate your laptops, water bottles, helmets, and cars. As far as I know, he did everything by the book, with the information he had and within the guidelines presented by the government. I also forgot to mention that none of the operators knew about any of the previous nuclear accidents that happened in the soviet union. Wich is kinda obvious, since he was the boss. For example, disabling the ECCS (emergency core cooling system) had nothing to do with the accident, although INSAG7 chastised the operators for "poor safety culture" for running the reactor for many hours with the ECCS disabled before the test commenced. The generations-long campaign of disinformation and mythologizing has made it difficult for people to assess how logical/reasonable/reckless the decisions were at the time, given the information available. 4 at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant when it exploded six years ago yesterday. We might hear from Dyatlov's family at some point, since a Chernobyl Youtuber has been slowly approaching them over time. They weren't getting those positions by arguing and contradicting the boss, especially in front of others. I'm not really sure which relatives those are, other than his wife, who is in poor health. What is the cost of memes? At that time, it was supposed to carry out a run-down of the rotor of the turbogenerator, according to which the kinetic energy of the turbogenerator, in the event of its disconnection, was to provide energy to the pumps for cooling the reactor. Wich is kinda obvious, since he was the boss. I read somewhere else (can't re find the url) that his wife died in childbirth, and his only son died of leukaemia. As to operating the reactor below 700 MW, there was nothing in the documentation that prohibited this. [–]Szudar 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children), He lived with wife and had adult daughter when he wrote his book in early 1990s, [–]cold_reptile 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children), I bet they were on the toilet as well as him that time, so they cannot answer this question, unfortunately... #kappa, [–]Soupcon_ 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children). HBO's Chernobyl ends with the trial of Anatoly Dyatlov, Viktor Bryukhanov, and Nikolai Fomin, as well as the chain of events that led up to the reactor exploding, but what happened to the three men who were judged responsible for the Chernobyl nuclear disaster? [–]ppitm 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago* (3 children). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. To hide a spoiler in the comments of such a thread, use: Add the scope of the spoiler in the brackets. In 1945, he enrolled in the electrical engineering department of the Norilsk Mining and Metallurgical Technical School and graduated with honors five years later. She didn't outright say it, but it did seem like she inferred he was vilified to be the fall guy. Her husband Ignatenko was also portrayed to scream and writhe in pain but in actual fact he was brave and dealt with it, [–]mizushima-yuki 8 points9 points10 points 4 months ago (1 child). 'Chernobyl' character Anatoly Dyatlov has been turned into one of the best memes of 2019 thanks to his numerous unbelieveable quotes. Just about everyone has encountered a boss or teacher like this. Some say he was overbearing, stubborn, and confrontational. were mostly a Soviet red herring to scapegoat Dyatlov and others. I could go on, but I'm sure others will elaborate. He died halfway up the hill. It was perfectly understood what would happen if you didn't do what you were told: your career would be over. Tregub said this in a letter to Dyatlov, while the other two testified at the trial. The events of HBO's Chernobyl are rooted in the historic 1986 disaster, in which a Soviet nuclear reactor exploded, contaminated the surrounding … You also have to remember Dyatlov was a product of, and constrained by the fundamentally broken Soviet bureaucracy. So my opinion is that the serie certainly painted him bad, because it makes a better show and its more emotional. The statements of eyewitnesses. Ignatenko was also portrayed to scream and writhe in pain but in actual fact he was brave and dealt with it. Dyatlov, tall, thin and looking older than his 62 years, was the engineer in charge of reactor No. Slobodin refused to let her go alone, and accompanied her in her search and trek back up the hill. Remember that only half of the demonization in the miniseries is the creative invention of Craig Mazin (clearly channeling all his bad bosses from previous jobs). Reasonable leeway is allowed for talking about things like historical events and nuclear power. So if he was anything like that bitter, unpleasant man portrayed in the series, I honestly can't blame him. I do this post because i want to see your opinions. Gazin, Tregub and Metlenko all said that there were no loud arguments, no recriminations over the drop in power or threats over raising it again. So I'm wondering because this really shines a new light on what I know about the disaster. The following is an excerpt of Midnight in Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham. Its interesting though every documentary prior to this his character is portrayed as an A-hole. Dyatlov bore responsibility. Okay, so some people here see Dyatlov as a hero, some people see him as a villian. Meme submissions must be marked with the "m" link flair, or they may be removed without notice. The attention to detail in the show is near perfect which makes it absolutely devastating to watch. Remember that to even get near a job in somewhere like Chernobyl, you had to be pretty much impeccable. Continuing of such comments after warnings will result in permanent bans. I totally understand why she’d be upset, but I at least think she’s portrayed as an average soviet. She never one with asked why anything was dangerous. It's a different culture. And i saw the other day a post of someone leaving flowers on his grave. Am not a nuclear power plant expert, but in all job, you do with what information, equipment, procedures and training you have. Get up to 50% off. The KGB character says it himself-- "we will have our heroes, we will have our villains, we will have our truth". After watching the show I decided to read the book Chernobyl: The History of a Nuclear Disaster, which I would highly recommend to everyone. Others said he was demanding, but honest, principled, and devoted. Actual prison was rather more offensive, I'm sure. You sound delusional, go to the infirmary. The story of the world’s biggest man-made disaster has appealed to both the audience and the critics – the miniseries has been watched by about a million viewers, it has received lots of reviews internationally. This "safety rule" was actually conjured up by the Soviets after the fact, to make the operators look guilty. The govt story blamed Leonid (only 25) and Akimov, saying they were incompetent and reckless. At 56, Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov was front and center in the worst nuclear disaster in world history. Well I think its easy to see him as a villain, but sometimes you play with the cards that you were dealt with. 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